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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Seiffert82 » February 27, 2015, 6:31 pm

The issue here is obviously the "third party" system being shamelessly exploited. 99% of these deals aren't third party agreements at all.

The Raiders need to figure out how to dodgy the books to funnel Leagues Club funding through bogus businesses to third party sponsor players for doing amazing promotional exercises like driving a fast car or living in an expensive apartment complex or going on an all expenses paid overseas holiday at the end of the season.

Seriously, are we the only club not rorting the system blind?

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by edwahu » February 28, 2015, 2:50 am

The NRL annual report released today clearly states the cap is in place to both provide an even competition and financial sustainability. They pat themselves on the back for how even the comp is as a result. No mention of TPAs at all in the report.

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Post by Toviii » February 28, 2015, 5:40 am

edwahu wrote:The NRL annual report released today clearly states the cap is in place to both provide an even competition and financial sustainability. They pat themselves on the back for how even the comp is as a result. No mention of TPAs at all in the report.
The hypocrisy really annoys me.
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Post by Toviii » March 1, 2015, 9:22 am

Belongs here: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 3rmt7.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Dr Zaius » March 1, 2015, 9:25 am

It's a completely unworkable system that will be shamelessly exploited by player agents and ensure a bigger gulf between the haves and have nots.
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by T_R » March 1, 2015, 10:41 am

I agree the league needs this. The player should be required to take up at least 1/6 of the salary cap for the club, and the club should not be allowed to recruit any player from any other club for the duration of the subsidised contract.
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by greeneyed » March 1, 2015, 10:57 am

It's an absolute disgrace that the NRL would think of doing this. This is the team that won the premiership, and they want to throw a truck load of cash, on top of that club's salary cap, for their best player.
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Post by DJ89 » March 1, 2015, 11:18 am

Souths really need all the help they can get, don't they?

The saddest thing is, if GI stays there is a good chance he will go back to Brisbane on the NRL's dime.

Another side that needs all the help they can get.

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Post by Dr Zaius » March 1, 2015, 11:19 am

And you just know it's going to happen. His manager will say he is walking to union if they don't show him the money. He'd be a fool not to.
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Raidersrawesome » March 1, 2015, 11:21 am

I dont understand it either , yes lets keep him in the game but to help another club , the premiers at that keep their team together.

They will have to even it somehow , they should be forced to lose another high profile player to another club.


On GI, apparently the Bronocs are going to go after him when Hodges retires . Thats after they get Gagai next year.
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Post by RTW » March 1, 2015, 11:25 am

Surely if we wanted to we could spend more money on third party sponsorships but I don't think as a club we are willing to.
The Broncos have there group of wealthy businessmen who fork out third party sponsorship where players are doing next to nothing for this so called sponsorship. You can't tell me that some of this money isn't coming directly from the Broncos.

I think if the NRL were fair dinkum about supporting the smaller clubs they should do so by subsidising game day prices. The Titans are often running at a loss because there deal with stadiums QLD costs them a fortune every game. If the NRL stepped in for clubs like them and us and said we will take a hit for a year and cover your game day expense. Clubs could then charge next to nothing for entry, which would build support. Punters would then spend more on merch and support for a team would grow.

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Dr Zaius » March 1, 2015, 11:28 am

Johnny Ringo wrote:The Broncos have there group of wealthy businessmen who fork out third party sponsorship where players are doing next to nothing for this so called sponsorship. You can't tell me that some of this money isn't coming directly from the Broncos.
That was what their salary cap probe was into last year, the redirection of leagues club money
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by RTW » March 1, 2015, 11:48 am

Exactly and they got away with it. All they had to do was give Andrew Gee the " sack" and the case was closed. The bloke was at their season launch this week!

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Manchild » March 1, 2015, 12:08 pm

You know what I would be happy if he ended up at the Broncos. By the time he gets there he will be what 31, 32? He is starting to get injuries and by that age he wont be the player he is now. It will be his retirement pay

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Dr Zaius » March 1, 2015, 12:32 pm

I'd be happy for him to go to the Broncos also. They are a team that are behind the eight ball, struggle to attract third party sponsorship and always play by the rules. Given that and the fact that Inglis is a Queensland junior it is just that he goes there.
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by reptar » March 1, 2015, 12:56 pm

No bad blood from the last time he signed there?
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Dr Zaius » March 1, 2015, 12:58 pm

Wasn't his fault. The planes weren't flying.
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Post by -PJ- » March 1, 2015, 1:00 pm

Blame it on the rain.
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Raidersrawesome » March 1, 2015, 2:40 pm

reptar wrote:No bad blood from the last time he signed there?
No , it was about Henjaks temperament as a coach

and that planes didnt fly in the rain
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Manbush » March 1, 2015, 3:48 pm

Problem with Inglis to Broncs is Smith has already said he'd use the discretionary bonus to keep Inglis in the NRL
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Dr Zaius » March 1, 2015, 6:25 pm

You've lost me
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Raidersfan » March 2, 2015, 9:43 pm

Without doubt the most corrupt code in Australia .. IC my big fat ass
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Post by greeneyed » March 4, 2015, 6:26 pm

Former NSW State of Origin coach Phil Gould has labelled plans for an external NRL draft as "ridiculous." Gould said he did not believe those at the top of the game fully understood the ramifications of instituting a draft.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-l ... 3v9fj.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by greeneyed » March 4, 2015, 6:29 pm

Brisbane Broncos coach Wayne Bennett has no faith in NRL integrity unit: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 3ut2t.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Manbush » March 4, 2015, 6:39 pm

Dr Zaius wrote:It's a completely unworkable system that will be shamelessly exploited by player agents and ensure a bigger gulf between the haves and have nots.
That's where since the NRL is paying they should determine which club the player goes to, offer them to clubs at the bottom of the table. If the player refuses that club screw em they cannot be allowed to hold the game to ransom to play for a certain club only, if they want the mega bucks that's the price they have to pay otherwise watch it grow out of hand. I'm guessing when Surgess is finished with union Rabbits will push for another allowance (and Smith will oblige).
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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Dr Zaius » March 4, 2015, 8:59 pm

greeneyed wrote:Former NSW State of Origin coach Phil Gould has labelled plans for an external NRL draft as "ridiculous." Gould said he did not believe those at the top of the game fully understood the ramifications of instituting a draft.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-l ... 3v9fj.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by edwahu » March 4, 2015, 9:00 pm

greeneyed wrote:Brisbane Broncos coach Wayne Bennett has no faith in NRL integrity unit: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 3ut2t.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So i'd assume that's a 10k fine coming up for Wayne?

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Raidersrawesome » March 4, 2015, 9:15 pm

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by Schifty » March 4, 2015, 9:17 pm

They're more likely to fine the Integrity committee than Bennett.

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Post by gangrenous » March 5, 2015, 6:18 am

Integrity unit to do an investigation and conclude that Bennett should be given more powers.

NRL seem to need an integrity unit integrity unit... If you know what I mean. Integrity unit has none itself.

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by reptar » March 5, 2015, 7:39 am

Disintegration Unit, more like it.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.

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Post by reptar » March 5, 2015, 1:02 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-05/p ... rl/6282164" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That sums it up in a neat little package.
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.

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Post by ak47 » March 5, 2015, 3:47 pm

basketcase of an organisation is the NRL.

i cant stand smith or grant. then the integrity unit is anything but. its a farce and the lower crowds this season will reflect this

great game getting ruined by idiots. NRL 'war chest' to pay players undermines the cap. Hayne will walk back into the NRL and straight back into the Eels after they have used all that free money to poach players. Just the verbal assurance from smith saying "we will do whatever it takes" undermines the fairness that has made the competition so tight and fierce from the cap (which is somewhat flawed as it is with 3rd parties), so lets make it even worse lololol

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Re: The NRL is a mess

Post by greeneyed » March 7, 2015, 10:31 pm

Where is all the money going? On inflated administration, that's where...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 7252728989" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Schifty » March 7, 2015, 10:58 pm

Looks like they've done a Melbourne and had the secret room with a second set of books :woot:

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