Holden Cup nearing the end?

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Raidersrawesome » July 31, 2015, 8:50 pm

Im over the Holden cup and its position in the game. It isnt what it was when it started

a lot of coaches are too as they see it more important to move the kids up to the State cups
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » July 31, 2015, 8:50 pm

If the NYC is a joke, NSW Cup and Q Cup are a joke as well. I find NSW Cup matches, in general, a major snooze.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by dubby » July 31, 2015, 8:53 pm

Because you aren't looking for the next teen sensation.

Reserve grade is a better standard.
If you find nsw cup a bore, than so is nrl
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » July 31, 2015, 8:56 pm

dubby wrote:Because you aren't looking for the next teen sensation.

Reserve grade is a better standard.
If you find nsw cup a bore, than so is nrl
That's rubbish. At least with NYC, you can see the bright young talent coming through. In NSW Cup, you see lots of 30 year old players who didn't make it or will never make it, playing some pretty boring footy.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by dubby » July 31, 2015, 9:00 pm

Bullcrap. What's wrong with a 30 year old? Our last try in a grand final was scored by one
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Post by dubby » July 31, 2015, 9:02 pm

And a 34 year old scored a crucial one in 89. By today's logic they'd have Brenko frigging Lee on the wing hoping he didn't want to leave
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » July 31, 2015, 9:03 pm

I watch a lot of these games. I know which is the more entertaining... by a long way.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by dubby » July 31, 2015, 9:05 pm

If you like 54-38 scorelines, watch netball.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » July 31, 2015, 9:23 pm

You think you don't get 36-34 scorelines in NSW Cup?
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by -TW- » July 31, 2015, 10:54 pm

No ones there to see it so it didn't happen

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Sydney Raider » August 2, 2015, 12:19 pm

greeneyed wrote:Reserve grade is hopeless and slow.
Why would it be?

For instance in Canberra's case. If you combined our best players in NYC team (Ok, they are ****, but just for the idea forget that fact), and best players at Mounties, we would have a solid side. If all NRL followed suit I don't see why it wouldn't be an interesting competition.

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » August 2, 2015, 12:45 pm

But that's what clubs are doing now, and it's not much good, is it?
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by -TW- » August 2, 2015, 12:54 pm

I've found the Mounties games I've watched to be quite entertaining tbh

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by -GD- » August 2, 2015, 1:38 pm

Lenny Leonard wrote:I've found the Mounties games I've watched to be quite entertaining tbh
Same, much more entertaining than the 20s for a couple of years now.

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Pigman » August 2, 2015, 2:07 pm

T_R wrote:What the chap with green eyes said. **** me, its not broken.
Disagree, the current pathways system IS broken
The Holden Cup is the right idea, in that every club being forced to participate but the NRL needs an open age RG in it's place.


Id like to see an U18's rookie draft, a move to conference/division based football, with 18 teams and an open age RG competition replacing Holden Cup
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by VictorTheViking » August 2, 2015, 2:20 pm

Minimum 10 games nsw/qld cup before you can debut in NRL unless your already over 20

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Raidersrawesome » August 2, 2015, 2:22 pm

"There's no decision to scrap the holden cup as yet” - Todd Greenberg
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » August 2, 2015, 3:10 pm

Raidersrawesome wrote:"There's no decision to scrap the holden cup as yet” - Todd Greenberg
#NRL #TripleMNRL
But we know there will be.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Raidersrawesome » August 2, 2015, 4:03 pm

yeah. It's a foregone conclusion IMO
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Raidersrawesome » August 5, 2015, 5:03 am

NRL considering nine-week tournament to replace National Youth Competition

The NRL is considering replacing the soon-to-be-defunct National Youth Competition with a nine-week tournament as part of a massive overhaul of rugby league pathways.

The under-20s competition was ushered in with much fanfare in 2008, spruiked as a means to showcase and prepare the best young talent in the game. But as revealed by Fairfax Media a year ago, the Holden Cup will be scrapped at the end of the current broadcast deal.



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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by edwahu » August 5, 2015, 4:23 pm

I like that idea.

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by VictorTheViking » August 5, 2015, 8:23 pm

So what happens to these players when they're not playing this tournament??? You can't drop it completely... Dumb move imo, cutting off a path to the NRL and replacing it with a 9 week tournament instead of lengthening the existing pathway to provide more experience is ridiculous

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » August 5, 2015, 8:33 pm

Presumably they run it concurrently with SG Ball (U18s) and Harold Matthews (U16s) and the best then play reserves. Ball and Matts are already nine week competitions. The concept is players then go back to junior clubs. Or they play reserves even through that.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by edwahu » August 6, 2015, 8:22 am

Yeah, Flegg was 9 weeks as well I think.

90% of players in NYC squads don't have a pathway anyway, they are just making up the numbers. I don't remember a player who didn't standout straight away as one of the top three or four in the side making it all the way to first grade. Maybe someone like Kennedy but that was as good a side as has played the comp.

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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by greeneyed » August 6, 2015, 8:30 am

Flegg was a full season.
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Re: Holden Cup nearing the end?

Post by Raidersrawesome » August 7, 2015, 10:28 am

Looking through the 2010 team of the year , they named the best of the best in their position and there are some who havent kicked on to FG .




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