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2015 Holden Cup: Rd 21 V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » July 28, 2015, 1:55 pm

2015 Holden Cup: Rd 21 V Cowboys

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Canberra Raiders V North Queensland Cowboys
Townsville
Saturday 1 August 2015, 3:15pm AEST
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Canberra Raiders

1. Tre Williams 2. Thomas Cronan 3. Chevi Ellis 4. Cameron Booth 5. Jack Hickson 6. Lachlan Lewis 7. Dylan McGrath 8. Morgan Boyle 9. Zac Woolford 10. Cleveland McGhie 11. Jack Williams 12. Kalani Going 13. Brett Solomon

14. Jared McIlwrick 15. Daniel Dole 16. Sione Afemui 17. Taniela Moa

North Queensland Cowboys

1.Yamba Bowie 2. Gideon Gela-Mosby 3. Akeripa Tia Kilifi 4. Conor Carey 5. Scott Schulte 6. Kyle Laybutt 7. Cooper Bambling 8. Viliame Kikau 9. Andrew Niemoeller (c) 10. Ross Bella 11. Coen Hess 12. Temone Power 13. Jordan Kenworthy

14. Kayln Ponga 15. Bill Cullen 16. Braden Smith 17. David Munro

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Travis » July 28, 2015, 6:09 pm

If you're interested, keep an eye on the Cowboys 14 Kalyn Ponga. He has been something of a child prodigy. Represented 15 years QLD schoolboys as a 14 year old (making the Australian merit team when 14 and 15) and made 18 years QLD schoolboys as a 16 year old. He's 17 this year but played limited footy, as he had a brain tumor removed, ruling him out for most of the season. Here is an article from last year announcing his signing with the Cowboys:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl ... 6793242207

There's also a YouTube video of his Rugby Union highlights playing for the First 15 at a pretty prestigious Brisbane school (as a 16 year old). Certainly one to keep an eye on.

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » July 28, 2015, 6:22 pm

Good to see Cleveland McGhie was cleared of any serious injury after last week and is fit to play.

Not sure about Tre Williams at fullback at this level yet, he looked a bit overawed there last week. And he's small compared to other players in the grade too.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by VictorTheViking » July 28, 2015, 7:56 pm

Billy slater is small and hes fared ok in the nrl.

I like the look of Williams, with his footwork

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » July 28, 2015, 7:58 pm

I think Tre is a fair bit smaller than Slater at this stage.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by VictorTheViking » July 28, 2015, 7:59 pm

Naturally, was just making a point about small players

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by julian87 » July 28, 2015, 8:45 pm

greeneyed wrote:Good to see Cleveland McGhie was cleared of any serious injury after last week and is fit to play.

Not sure about Tre Williams at fullback at this level yet, he looked a bit overawed there last week. And he's small compared to other players in the grade too.
Williams definitely needs to be given a bit more time before judgement. That game last week is one of the biggest mismatches I've ever seen. Most fullbacks would have been made look ordinary in such a flogging.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Manchild » July 28, 2015, 10:25 pm

He was very suspect under the high ball.

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Raidersrawesome » July 30, 2015, 3:17 pm

NYC Match Preview: Raiders v Cowboys

The Canberra Raiders Holden Cup side were handed a thrashing by the top of the table Penrith Panthers last weekend, and their job won’t get any easier this weekend up in Townsville against the second placed North Queensland Cowboys.

“It’s going to be a challenge for us but I think the boys are up for it to redeem ourselves for last weekend,” NYC forward Brett Soloman said.

“Obviously facing the Cowboys, they’re going to want to come through our middle again so it will be a big game for myself and the other forwards. If we manage to beat their forwards and give our backs some space we can win.”

We’ve been working on our defence all year, but last week let us down so defence is going to be a key focus point this week.”

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by The Greenhouse » August 1, 2015, 2:11 pm

Welcome to our coverage of today's Holden Cup clash between the Canberra Raiders and North Queenland Cowboys in Townsville. Warm conditions, currently around 26C, mostly sunny. Brenko Lee a late inclusion for the Raiders:

Canberra Raiders

2. Thomas Cronan 1. Tre Williams 19. Brenko Lee 18. Cody Parsons 4. Cameron Booth 6. Lachlan Lewis 7. Dylan McGrath 8. Morgan Boyle 9. Zac Woolford 10. Cleveland McGhie 3. Chevi Ellis 12. Kalani Going 11. Jack Williams

5. Jack Hickson 13. Brett Solomon 14. Jared McIlwrick 15. Daniel Dole

North Queensland Cowboys

1.Yamba Bowie 2. Gideon Mosby 3. Akeripa Tia Kilifi 4. Conor Carey 5. Scott Schulte 6. Kyle Laybutt 18. Mitch Dunn 8. Viliame Kikau 9. Andrew Niemoeller (c) 10. Ross Bella 11. Coen Hess 12. Temone Power 13. Jordan Kenworthy

14. Kalyn Ponga 15. Bill Cullen 16. Brandon Smith 17. David Munro.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 2:23 pm

That's an awful lot of changes for the Raiders. At least they're showing how versatile they are with respect to positions... Parsons makes his debut.
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Post by Thombre » August 1, 2015, 2:26 pm

where had brenko been?
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 2:27 pm

He played Mounties last week.
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Post by Thombre » August 1, 2015, 2:30 pm

greeneyed wrote:He played Mounties last week.
busted his butt down to 20's for trying to get away lol. Thats a shame, I would have liked to see him get more reggies time.... he's physically there, I would have thought spending time at mounties with blokes who are busting their arses to get into firsts would have shown him the attitude required.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Raidersrawesome » August 1, 2015, 2:31 pm

Mounties aren't playing this weekend
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 2:32 pm

He needs to be playing every week.
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Post by Thombre » August 1, 2015, 2:33 pm

Raidersrawesome wrote:Mounties aren't playing this weekend
haha of corse thats why the smokescreen got ruined :lol: jeez I've had a shocking start to the weekend
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by The Greenhouse » August 1, 2015, 2:56 pm

Holden Cup Round 21 Canberra Raiders V North Queensland Cowboys

First half score updates

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6th min TRY COWBOYS to Gideon Mosby. No conversion. Cowboys 4-0
15th min TRY COWBOYS, it's a double to Mosby, who ran down the touchline to score. Laybutt converts the try. Cowboys 10-0
21st min TRY RAIDERS to Thomas Cronan. Converted by Zac Woolford. Cowboys 10-6
23rd min TRY COWBOYS to Ross Bella. Converted by Laybutt. Cowboys 16-6
26th min TRY COWBOYS to Scott Schulte. Converted by Laybutt from the sideline. Cowboys 22-6
28th min TRY COWBOYS A hat trick to Gideon Mosby, showing his pace. Converted. Cowboys 28-6
31st min TRY COWBOYS A double for Scott Schulte, set up by Laybutt. Laybutt converts from out wide. Obviously, the Raiders defence is poor... Cowboys 34-6
37th min TRY COWBOYS to Temone Power, more poor defence from Canberra on the line. Laybutt converts. Cowboys 40-6
38th min TRY COWBOYS to Yamba Bowie. Cowboys 46-6

HALF TIME
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Holden Cup Round 21 Canberra Raiders V North Queensland Cowboys

Second half score updates

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Second half is back underway.
44th min TRY COWBOYS to Coen Hess. Cowboys 52-6
54th min Scoring has thankfully slowed, still Cowboys 52-6
56th min TRY RAIDERS Cowboys 52-12
61st min TRY COWBOYS to Viliame Kikau and it is converted. Cowboys 58-12
64th min TRY COWBOYS to Bowie. Hess converts. Cowboys 64-12
68th min TRY COWBOYS to Brandon Smith. Ponga converts. Cowboys 70-12
74th min TRY COWBOYS to Ponga. Cowboys 74-12 The record NYC defeat was in 2012, Panthers over Titans 78-0.
80th min TRY COWBOYS to Mosby, his fourth. No conversion Laybutt. Cowboys 78-12

FULL TIME
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Raiders666 » August 1, 2015, 4:03 pm

Close game....

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Toviii » August 1, 2015, 4:57 pm

Does not bode well. Good grief.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 4:57 pm

What a debacle.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by VictorTheViking » August 1, 2015, 5:16 pm

Mantelli doesn't seem like a great motivator

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by -GD- » August 1, 2015, 5:18 pm

Jesus

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Post by Begbie » August 1, 2015, 5:22 pm

Relax guys, we have changed our recruitment strategy now. We are buying talent from other clubs now, remember. If we keep producing youth and development teams like the one that trotted out today,Brisbane and other evil clubs can't pilfer our stocks, as we have none. It's a win for us! :D

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by Seiffert82 » August 1, 2015, 5:34 pm

The Raiders are 5th on the table in the NYC. That sort of scoreline is precisely why the U20's has no future as our 2nd tier competition.

With a few key injuries these boys are out of their depth. It will basically be the same squad next season, so they may go OK next year, but right now they are clearly struggling.

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 6:24 pm

Seiffert82 wrote:The Raiders are 5th on the table in the NYC. That sort of scoreline is precisely why the U20's has no future as our 2nd tier competition.

With a few key injuries these boys are out of their depth. It will basically be the same squad next season, so they may go OK next year, but right now they are clearly struggling.
Some clubs are putting 17 year olds in, so no wonder if they meet the 20 year olds.
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Post by Seiffert82 » August 1, 2015, 6:28 pm

greeneyed wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote:The Raiders are 5th on the table in the NYC. That sort of scoreline is precisely why the U20's has no future as our 2nd tier competition.

With a few key injuries these boys are out of their depth. It will basically be the same squad next season, so they may go OK next year, but right now they are clearly struggling.
Some clubs are putting 17 year olds in, so no wonder if they meet the 20 year olds.
That's precisely why the comp is a joke.

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 6:32 pm

Seiffert82 wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote:The Raiders are 5th on the table in the NYC. That sort of scoreline is precisely why the U20's has no future as our 2nd tier competition.

With a few key injuries these boys are out of their depth. It will basically be the same squad next season, so they may go OK next year, but right now they are clearly struggling.
Some clubs are putting 17 year olds in, so no wonder if they meet the 20 year olds.
That's precisely why the comp is a joke.
It's been a great comp, but the clubs have done their best to kill it. We will end with a single team. No doubt what the clubs want.
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Post by -PJ- » August 1, 2015, 8:19 pm

60+ against them last week.
70+ today.

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Post by Seiffert82 » August 1, 2015, 11:28 pm

greeneyed wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote:The Raiders are 5th on the table in the NYC. That sort of scoreline is precisely why the U20's has no future as our 2nd tier competition.

With a few key injuries these boys are out of their depth. It will basically be the same squad next season, so they may go OK next year, but right now they are clearly struggling.
Some clubs are putting 17 year olds in, so no wonder if they meet the 20 year olds.
That's precisely why the comp is a joke.
It's been a great comp, but the clubs have done their best to kill it. We will end with a single team. No doubt what the clubs want.
The concept of requiring junior players to get a trade or tertiary education while they are developing in the system is a really good one. So is having a salary cap for players at that level.

The concept of making an under 20's competition your second tier is fundamentally flawed.
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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by -TW- » August 1, 2015, 11:30 pm

As I've said a mirror reserve grade comp would be more beneficial than the 20's

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Re: 2015 Rd 21 Holden Cup V Cowboys

Post by greeneyed » August 1, 2015, 11:33 pm

We're not going to get one. I can see us having just one game at Canberra Stadium every week, as the Raiders have said they won't have thir own team, but will continue with Mounties.
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