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PostPosted: September 5, 2017, 9:59 pm
please tell me how that rabble have a hope to qualify for the wc?

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**** playing Cahill at 10 was a numskull move
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PostPosted: September 6, 2017, 11:57 am
Reading an article this morning it said we had to now beat Syria and one other side. Does this mean we have to qualify through the South American group again?
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PostPosted: September 6, 2017, 12:01 pm
gergreg wrote:Reading an article this morning it said we had to now beat Syria and one other side. Does this mean we have to qualify through the South American group again?


I believe its north america (Concacaf)
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While I'm quite anti Postecoglu there was no luck at all in that game last night. It's no stretch at all to say that we could very easily have scored 5 goals. If we had have buried those 2 in the first 10 it could have been massive. Could've beens don't help though./
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PostPosted: September 6, 2017, 1:37 pm
Thanks Dibbers. Looks a little confusing to a non rusted on supporter like me but just a quick search and it would appear the winner of Syria/Australia faces Honduras for a WC berth?
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PostPosted: September 6, 2017, 1:50 pm
It's to do with Asia having 4.5 places, and 7.5 for concacaf

3rd place in each pool plays off for the half a spot, winner of the continental playoff gaining the spot

Concacaf playoff vs Honduras

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PostPosted: September 6, 2017, 7:51 pm
gergreg wrote:Thanks Dibbers. Looks a little confusing to a non rusted on supporter like me but just a quick search and it would appear the winner of Syria/Australia faces Honduras for a WC berth?
All good. I'm not 100% up to speed on international football. I mainly watch premier league. I keep an eye on the socceroos though.

From what i can gather, we dont have the calibre of footballer to play the style Ange is trying to implement at this level.

We dont have the pace or stamina for high octane pressing football.

I dont know what style would suit, but he needs to settle on a core group of playera and build a system that works for them, much like hiddink did (albeit with a significantly better squad at thr time)

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PostPosted: September 6, 2017, 7:52 pm
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gergreg wrote:Thanks Dibbers. Looks a little confusing to a non rusted on supporter like me but just a quick search and it would appear the winner of Syria/Australia faces Honduras for a WC berth?
All good. I'm not 100% up to speed on international football. I mainly watch premier league. I keep an eye on the socceroos though.

From what i can gather, we dont have the calibre of footballer to play the style Ange is trying to implement at this level.

We dont have the pace or stamina for high octane pressing football.

I dont know what style would suit, but he needs to settle on a core group of playera and build a system that works for them, much like hiddink did (albeit with a significantly better squad at thr time)

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PostPosted: October 7, 2017, 1:37 pm
Socceroos draw with Syria. Not a great result but they're having a bit of **** laff with that penalty.

Just looking at the FIFA site it looks like a play-off with Honduras IF the Socceroos get through.
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PostPosted: October 7, 2017, 2:34 pm
gergreg wrote:Socceroos draw with Syria. Not a great result but they're having a bit of **** laff with that penalty.

Just looking at the FIFA site it looks like a play-off with Honduras IF the Socceroos get through.


In a two leg match a scoring draw in an away match is an okay result that a lot of teams would be happy with.

Essentially we either beat them at home or at worst stop them from scoring and we progress.


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PostPosted: October 10, 2017, 9:40 pm
They did their best to stink that one up.. holy crap

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PostPosted: October 10, 2017, 9:43 pm
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PostPosted: October 11, 2017, 8:12 am
A goal post saved us from a ten man Syria in extra time.

Heaven forbid.


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PostPosted: October 11, 2017, 8:29 am
To save time why don't FIFA take the top32 ranked nations.

We wouldn't have to worry about it....
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Cause it would be the same 32 teams.. kinda boring

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PostPosted: October 11, 2017, 9:35 pm
Need some pay off system. Like an international level FA Cup
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PostPosted: October 12, 2017, 7:04 am
-TW- wrote:Cause it would be the same 32 teams.. kinda boring

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Yeah so..

And anyway the top 32 in World Soccer would surely change every four years.

Especially the countrys ranked say 25-40.

I don't really care anyway. I only mentioned it because it seems this qualifying crap plays out over 12 months.

Oh the Socceroos lost..

Now they play a home and away leg against Russia.
If they lose that they get another chance against the 14th ranked country in Africa. But if they lose that it's desperation time as they get another chance and another chance and another.

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PostPosted: October 12, 2017, 8:21 am
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-TW- wrote:Cause it would be the same 32 teams.. kinda boring

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Yeah so..

And anyway the top 32 in World Soccer would surely change every four years.

Especially the countrys ranked say 25-40.

I don't really care anyway. I only mentioned it because it seems this qualifying crap plays out over 12 months.

Oh the Socceroos lost..

Now they play a home and away leg against Russia.
If they lose that they get another chance against the 14th ranked country in Africa. But if they lose that it's desperation time as they get another chance and another chance and another.

It's never ends...much like John Farnhams career...


The problem with the qualifying structure is that certain confederations are granted a half a spot. So for example, the Asian confederation will get 4.5 spots, and North America get 7.5 spots. Should just make it 4 and 8 or 5 and 7.. the half spots are what causes all the 2nd chance rounds.

Now which confederation gets the extra half a spot should be determined by the highest placed country from that confederation gets the extra spot for the next world cup.

Say for example in Russia 2018, the best performing Asian team make the semis, and the best performing north american team only make the quarters, that means the Asian confederation gets the extra spot between the 2 for Qatar 2022.. if they both make the Semis, then it goes on goal difference. Not too difficult if you ask me..
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PostPosted: October 12, 2017, 9:06 am
-PJ- wrote:To save time why don't FIFA take the top32 ranked nations.

We wouldn't have to worry about it....


It'd go from being the world cup to the European/South American cup, other continents would lose interest in it.

That'd be like having a "National" Rugby League but only including teams along the Eastern coastline... wait...
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reptar wrote:Need some pay off system. Like an international level FA Cup


I think FIFA has their pay off system well and truly sorted. :D
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PostPosted: October 12, 2017, 5:22 pm
-PJ- wrote:
-TW- wrote:Cause it would be the same 32 teams.. kinda boring

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Yeah so..

And anyway the top 32 in World Soccer would surely change every four years.

Especially the countrys ranked say 25-40.

I don't really care anyway. I only mentioned it because it seems this qualifying crap plays out over 12 months.

Oh the Socceroos lost..

Now they play a home and away leg against Russia.
If they lose that they get another chance against the 14th ranked country in Africa. But if they lose that it's desperation time as they get another chance and another chance and another.

It's never ends...much like John Farnhams career...
The majority of the top 32 has stayed the same for years

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PostPosted: October 16, 2017, 10:20 am
They keep the half spots because it produces more games and more revenue. Who would have thunk it?

The rankings are farcical and always have been, they have very little merit as they take into account friendlies and there is a vast difference with how countries approach those games.

Australia has been a rabble, but hopefully they get the job done against Honduras.
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