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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Rick » December 6, 2017, 6:07 pm

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » December 6, 2017, 6:54 pm

What happened to all the 'should of enforced the follow on' crowd?!?

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Post by greeneyed » December 6, 2017, 7:19 pm

They should have.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by -PJ- » December 6, 2017, 7:25 pm

Who cares..

Follow on..don't follow on.

The Poms are on their knees, let's finish them off in Perth.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » December 6, 2017, 8:07 pm

Mitch Marsh seems to be back in the mix.

Id say Handscomb is in trouble. If u look back, he was my sneaky not to last the Ashes.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by -TW- » December 6, 2017, 8:13 pm

Matt wrote:What happened to all the 'should of enforced the follow on' crowd?!?
Still here, game would have been over yesterday if they did

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » December 6, 2017, 9:35 pm

Talk that MMarsh could replace Handscombe. Unbelievable.

Maxwell must have slept with all the selectors wives or something.

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Post by Jason » December 6, 2017, 10:01 pm

-TW- wrote:
Matt wrote:What happened to all the 'should of enforced the follow on' crowd?!?
Still here, game would have been over yesterday if they did

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by the bone » December 6, 2017, 10:19 pm

Jason wrote:
-TW- wrote:
Matt wrote:What happened to all the 'should of enforced the follow on' crowd?!?
Still here, game would have been over yesterday if they did

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Hand still up, we bowled a lot more over then we should have.
I'm still here too. We gave them a sniff by not enforcing the follow on. We would've massacred them otherwise.

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Post by reptar » December 7, 2017, 4:16 am

Northern Raider wrote:Talk that MMarsh could replace Handscombe. Unbelievable.

Maxwell must have slept with all the selectors wives or something.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » December 7, 2017, 6:04 am

reptar wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Talk that MMarsh could replace Handscombe. Unbelievable.

Maxwell must have slept with all the selectors wives or something.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » December 7, 2017, 6:05 am

TBF, Mitch has avged something like 80 with the bat this season and just started bowling again.

Maxy will just have to keep scoring too

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by julian87 » December 7, 2017, 6:57 am

Matt wrote:TBF, Mitch has avged something like 80 with the bat this season and just started bowling again.

Maxy will just have to keep scoring too
Lol who cares Marsh was a disaster in the test side
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Post by Northern Raider » December 7, 2017, 1:21 pm

Matt wrote:TBF, Mitch has avged something like 80 with the bat this season and just started bowling again.

Maxy will just have to keep scoring too
Avg 44 actually.

Maxwell replaced MMarsh in the test team and out performed him. Maxwell continues to out perform him at the domestic level too. There is no logic about MMarsh jumping the queue ahead of Maxwell again.

Ironically the top 3 batsmen in Sheffield Shield so far are Maxwell, Callum Ferguson and Joe Burns. All recent discards from the test team.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by bonehead » December 7, 2017, 2:24 pm

4th quick on home deck the only reasoning. Handscomb to miss out?

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Brewdle » December 7, 2017, 2:25 pm

I think If Maxi bowled at some medium pace he’d be in, selectors want a ‘pacer’ to back up the quirks

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by zim » December 7, 2017, 2:56 pm

Didn't MM only just start bowling again?

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Post by Northern Raider » December 7, 2017, 3:28 pm

zim wrote:Didn't MM only just start bowling again?
Yep. A grand total of 22 overs in Shield returning 2 wickets at 48.00. crying out for a recall on those figures.
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Post by Matt » December 7, 2017, 5:26 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
Matt wrote:TBF, Mitch has avged something like 80 with the bat this season and just started bowling again.

Maxy will just have to keep scoring too
Avg 44 actually.

Maxwell replaced MMarsh in the test team and out performed him. Maxwell continues to out perform him at the domestic level too. There is no logic about MMarsh jumping the queue ahead of Maxwell again.

Ironically the top 3 batsmen in Sheffield Shield so far are Maxwell, Callum Ferguson and Joe Burns. All recent discards from the test team.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/au ... xSportsAus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This says 71 in Shield cricket. He has 2 tons this season too.

FWIW, Id go back to Maxy, hell id have picked him over SMarsh for the 1st Test.

But at least MMarsh's batting numbers this season are actually worth reading, rather that previous yrs.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » December 7, 2017, 5:33 pm

Matt wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
Matt wrote:TBF, Mitch has avged something like 80 with the bat this season and just started bowling again.

Maxy will just have to keep scoring too
Avg 44 actually.

Maxwell replaced MMarsh in the test team and out performed him. Maxwell continues to out perform him at the domestic level too. There is no logic about MMarsh jumping the queue ahead of Maxwell again.

Ironically the top 3 batsmen in Sheffield Shield so far are Maxwell, Callum Ferguson and Joe Burns. All recent discards from the test team.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/au ... xSportsAus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This says 71 in Shield cricket. He has 2 tons this season too.

FWIW, Id go back to Maxy, hell id have picked him over SMarsh for the 1st Test.

But at least MMarsh's batting numbers this season are actually worth reading, rather that previous yrs.
If you are going to cite media articles then you should probably read ALL the words. Its says "Across the last three Shield games, he has averaged 71 with the bat". Get your stats right Matt. :D

Here is a better source of data. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... tournament" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » December 8, 2017, 2:54 pm

Lies, damn lies and statistics

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Post by T_R » December 8, 2017, 3:59 pm

Matt wrote:Lies, damn lies and statistics
Wait.....what?
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You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » December 8, 2017, 4:46 pm

T_R wrote:
Matt wrote:Lies, damn lies and statistics
Wait.....what?
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Son, we live in a world that has forums, and those forums have to be guarded by Mods. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Nickman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lucy, and you curse GE. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that GE’s moderation, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps threads on track and under the appropriately sized, highlighted green headings.
You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Azza » December 11, 2017, 2:37 pm

MMarsh reminds me of Shane Watson, the selectors darling boy.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by -PJ- » December 11, 2017, 4:49 pm

I think it's a little harsh to be dropping Handscomb after a day/night test match(if they do)

Give the guy an opportunity on a bouncey WACA and if he fails make a change for Boxing Day.
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Post by -TW- » December 11, 2017, 6:40 pm

I think it's harsh seeing they carried George Bailey last ashes when he only performed having a hack to set up a declaration

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Post by Matt » December 11, 2017, 8:03 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
T_R wrote:
Matt wrote:Lies, damn lies and statistics
Wait.....what?
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » December 12, 2017, 8:08 am

Azza wrote:MMarsh reminds me of Shane Watson, the selectors darling boy.
If only MMarsh was as good as Watson.
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Post by gergreg » December 12, 2017, 2:10 pm

-PJ- wrote:I think it's a little harsh to be dropping Handscomb after a day/night test match(if they do)

Give the guy an opportunity on a bouncey WACA and if he fails make a change for Boxing Day.
His technique needs a little refinement from the little amount I've seen him play.

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Post by -PJ- » December 12, 2017, 2:30 pm

gergreg wrote:
-PJ- wrote:I think it's a little harsh to be dropping Handscomb after a day/night test match(if they do)

Give the guy an opportunity on a bouncey WACA and if he fails make a change for Boxing Day.
His technique needs a little refinement from the little amount I've seen him play.

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Post by Dibbers » December 12, 2017, 3:06 pm

-PJ- wrote:
gergreg wrote:
-PJ- wrote:I think it's a little harsh to be dropping Handscomb after a day/night test match(if they do)

Give the guy an opportunity on a bouncey WACA and if he fails make a change for Boxing Day.
His technique needs a little refinement from the little amount I've seen him play.

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Surely one of the 400 strong coaching staff have been working with him on that....
His technique is definitely unique... it'd be hard for a coach to work on it with him without trying to change it completely... because he bats so deep in his crease and holds the bat up like a golf swing, LBW is always going to be a problem for him... I'd get out hit wicket 9 times out of 10 if I took guard like him... but i bat at number 11 in park cricket so what would i know? lol
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Post by Northern Raider » December 12, 2017, 5:15 pm

Surely Handscomb has earned a little more faith from selectors than to drop him because of media scrutiny over his technique. You simply don't drop a guy who's averaging 47 for a guy who averages 20.
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Post by Dibbers » December 12, 2017, 6:17 pm

Northern Raider wrote:Surely Handscomb has earned a little more faith from selectors than to drop him because of media scrutiny over his technique. You simply don't drop a guy who's averaging 47 for a guy who averages 20.
Not saying he should be dropped at all... just saying that his isnt a technique that can be tweaked easily. For mine i dont look at a players technique as an indicator of their performance, because different strokes for different folks.

I also dont think hes being "dropped" (if he doesnt play in perth). I think the selectors are looking for another seemer to give the quicks a rest on what is traditionally a fast, bouncy wicket. They probably dobt expect lyon to be as effective and bowl as many overs.

Not saying MMarsh is the right option but id wager that that's their reasoning

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by -PJ- » December 12, 2017, 6:40 pm

If MMarsh plays instead of Handscomb it will be because of the pitch.

That will be the statement from CA...no doubt.

"We've selected MMarsh on this occasion because we feel the conditions will suit his style of bowling. He's a local lad in some good form. Our 3 quick bowlers have been fantastic for us and Mitch will add some variety to our attack. Unfortunately Peter Handscomb misses out but his test career is definately not over. He will go back to shield cricket to work on a few things and hopefully score some runs. We have picked the 12 players who we believe will win us this test match"
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